“Wait, So is this a Date?” Podcast Episode 206: star Crushes | Autostraddle

It absolutely was my sister’s turn-to pick the motion picture at Blockbuster and she’d plumped for

A Go to Remember

. “Sorry. This will be a lady film,” my personal mommy warned. Once we got residence and saw it as a family, i did not reveal my rips. Or my personal need. I didn’t confess that We liked the movie and, more importantly, cherished the lead. The entire year was actually 2002 and between Mandy Moore contained in this flick and Avril Lavigne launching her first record album, I’d discovered the two types of celeb crushes that will haunt with the rest of my personal childhood.

Celebrity crushes imply more to queer people than they are doing to straight individuals. They can be our very own very first expressions of queer need or our basic expressions of sex jealousy. They could be a secure location to test cravings that are not prepared your real world.

For this reason recently we’re speaking with author and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola everything about celebrity crushes. We speak about just how celebrity thirsting seems comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic gray asexual individual. We explore how I think most of my personal celebrity crushes are sort of attainable. And, obviously, we talk about the well-known earlier ladies on Christina’s water container.

But initially! Christina quizzes me on a subject i understand small about — lesbian relationship books

SHOW NOTES

+ the actual love books referenced within our online game happened to be:

The X Ingredient

,

Breaking Personality

,

Hotel Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Truth

.

+ My reference for two fans sharing a wall:

+ Christina’s guide for just two enthusiasts revealing a wall:

+ Here are most of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

An Easy Podcast

The Entire Film Podcast

Aughtsterion

Disaster Girls

Experiencing Seen

+ My popular

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If just like me, you really have no clue whom Lindsay Shookus is actually,
here is a timeline
of her commitment with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is very daring of me, because I don’t keep in mind every little thing I composed to my Tumblr, but here’s a hyperlink to
my Nicole Kidman task
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Rolling Stone address
.

+ an indication to watch

P-Valley

and also to study
Natalie’s insurance coverage
.

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EPISODE

Jordan:

Virtually whenever Jennifer Connelly’s face popped upon screen, every time I just moved, “Oh, Jesus.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, God,” like every screwing time.

[theme song performs]

Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.

Christina:

And I’m Christina.

Drew:

And introducing Wait, Is This A Romantic Date?.

Christina:

You are aware, hold, Is it A Date? is an Autostraddle podcast where I continuously forget who claims what, no matter how long we have now taped. Uh, In my opinion which is in fact truly gorgeous. And my headphones simply dropped right off my personal head. So.

Drew:

So a very good s—, strong start.

Christina:

A substantial begin. But largely, it’s a podcast about matchmaking and, like, learning exactly what dating is actually and in case we realize simple tips to exercise, like I decide if I know how to keep my very own earphones back at my really head.

Drew:

Which is fantastic. Um, i’m called Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I am, uh… Or will you… But did you desire me to stay thereon longer? I’m acquiring seems.

Christina:

No, I Am only home…

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

…on my self.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

It’s best in the event that you talk, i do believe. (laughs)

Drew:

Right. Um, uh, I am Drew Gregory. Im a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I am a queer trans woman aswell. Those tend to be identity labels that We have. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, positively. I’m Christina Tucker. Im also a writer at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And really, this thirty days I actually just already been like a lady about town. I’ve really just been like—

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

—woman most importantly, primarily in several—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—beaches, uh, during the Jersey Shore.

Drew:

You really have.

Christina:

But nevertheless experiencing really in particular and unique in a manner that today we obviously believe fatigued by.

Drew:

Sure.

Christina:

I am dark and homosexual, and that stones for me.

Drew:

I enjoy that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I don’t know precisely why i am thus weird these days. We, like, don’t know exactly who Im. What are you doing?

Drew:

Its ok. We’re gonna remain goin’.

Christina:

The thing I have, however, Drew, is actually a casino game.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Give Thanks To Jesus.

Christina:

And Also This online game I’m testing your knowledge of anything I’m Sure that you do not have plenty of information about, that will be—

Drew:

Oh Jesus.

Christina:

–fun. Um, it is a… it is called… I don’t actually have a reputation because of it. I possibly should’ve considered a reputation. But basically, I’ll offer you three lesbian relationship brands, and you are clearly going—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—to need certainly to tell me exactly what are the genuine people on the three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two i’ve created, a person is real. And you’re going to have to pick the actual one and let me know what you think it’s about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Isn’t it time?

Drew:

I’m. Just what outstanding online game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Here we get. 1st three.

The X Ingredient

,

The It Factor

, and

The reality of Us

.

Drew:

Huh. It really is amusing, ’cause you might think

The X Ingredient

would really be

The X Aspect

in conjunction with

The It Element

, but—

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

I wanna state… i recently… Oh, I’m hoping I am not unintentionally insulting you, but i’m like

The X Element

will be the clunkiest, and so you won’t came with that. It should be real.

Christina:

You happen to be appropriate. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I Am thus grateful.

Christina:

What exactly do you would imagine

The X Ingredient

is about?

Drew:

Um, In my opinion truly about two lesbians that exes and become for a passing fancy real life cooking demonstrate that’s type of like

Chopped

, but, like, approximately

Chopped

and

Great British Baking Show

. Like, it goes on for a time nevertheless features type of the sun and rain of

Chopped

. Um, and they are exes and it also… It is kind of like a… I don’t know whether or not it would rely as an opponents to fans simply because they happened to be enthusiasts at one-point, but it’s like an exes to straight back together.

Christina:

Everyone loves that. I also like that by asking you to tell myself what you think these books go for about, I only produced you develop love plots.

Drew:

I like it.

Christina:

That is truly fun. Uh, unfortuitously

The X Element

is obviously, uh, about an associate exactly who sleeps together supervisor. When I began reading it a week ago from the beach, we stated, “this is certainly completely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic that has converted into an actual book.” When we reveal we take a look at

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, I sure have actually. Making sure that’s a journey.

Drew:

Wait, but exactly why is it called

The X Element

?

Christina:

Well, inside the original fanfic, the X component ended up being… there clearly was some kind of reason that Miranda had every one of her assistants, uh, eat their out to orgasm. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Cannot truly recall just what, the storyline, the backstory ,was on that, um, in the fresh one, contained in this real printed version i will say, uh, the X ingredient i suppose is actually, I am not sure, only, like, that the woman associate’s hot and she actually is like, “Oh, I am homosexual today and that I wanna have intercourse together.” Like, I don’t know. The X ingredient has been hot.

Drew:

Good enough for my situation. Okay.

Christina:

There you choose to go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Broken Hearts Club

…

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

…

Busting Personality

,

Opting for Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, those sound like they may be genuine. I really like it to be

Breaking Character

, but i do believe

Broken Hearts Club

is actually real.

Christina:

Regrettably,

Broken Hearts Club

isn’t real. And happy obtainable,

Splitting Character

is real.

Drew:

Oh my Jesus, I should’ve simply eliminated using my instinct.

Christina:

Pick your instinct, babe.

Drew:


Breaking Personality

. Okay, really about sort of like the feminine Daniel Day-Lewis, like women actor exactly who takes the woman strategy operating very seriously, and she develops a relationship together with her co-star. But her co-star, its confusing for the woman co-star and for the star in the event that co-star is in really love together or perhaps in really love together character. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

Truthfully, that isn’t far-off from the real storyline of

Breaking Personality

, and that’s actually about two performers, person who is actually, uh, been known as a bitch but is not necessarily, it is just becoming, uh, badmouthed by her showrunner because she actually is on like a

Gray’s Structure

type healthcare tv series—

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

—that has actually truly eliminated off the rails. The woman fictional characteris the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, the woman new co-star Summer — yes it’s true, the woman name is Summer — is quite pleasant and wonderful. And because extremely bonkers storyline reasons, they have to have a fake union. However They’re both gay so…

Drew:

So absolutely nothing occurs. They don’t establish any emotions.

Christina:

Yeah, so that they cannot… Yeah, absolutely nothing.

Drew:

They never ever hook up. No.

Christina:

Absolutely nothing occurs. They never speak about it and they never have gender.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, which is what occurs.

Drew:

Occasionally which is how it goes.

Christina:

Fine, your upcoming three.

Resort Queens

,

News Moguls

, or

Restaurant Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I’m gonna follow my personal instinct and pick the one which I want to end up being real—

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

—and wish that that is real.

Hotel Queens

.

Christina:


Resort Queens

is actual.

Drew:

Wow, I Am eliminating it. (laughs)

Christina:

You’re eliminating this. For someone would you perhaps not review loads of lesbian romance, uh, its in your blood, hottie.

Drew:

Okay, i will today say the plot that I’m hoping truly, though I’m convinced considering my personal comprehension of publishing industry this isn’t the truth. But i would like that it is about two participants on a show much like, love,

Drag Race

’cause you aren’t truly meant to, love, maintain both’s spaces but, you are sure that, they remain in a hotel for the entire recording of this tv series. So that they develop, like, a sort of dramatic event that for a long period can’t be consummated, but their rooms are next to each other so they really, like, knock-on the wall structure around them then when they are shooting, there’s the same as all the tension and it’s… And yeah, that is, that is what I want

Resort Queens

getting about.

Christina:

That appears very hot. Um, that is not exactly what

Resort Queens

means. It is simply about a lady just who operates resorts and, uh, an other woman just who operates a competing resort.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Just Who works well with a fighting lodge chain in addition they, uh—

Drew:

Sure, sure, yes.

Christina:

—quite practically are lodge queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But i really like that energy. I really like the slamming on the… extremely, uh,

knock three times on the ceiling if you like myself

fuel, which I fancy.

Drew:

I happened to be referencing

Vibrant Superstar

, and I also love our, I love our various social points, you know.

Christina:

I really like all of our minds.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

In my opinion brains are so beautiful.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Fine,

Paid in haven

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noises enjoyable. I’m going with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. Plus its enjoyable ’cause its a real book.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Tell me how you feel

Payback’s a Witch

is all about.

Drew:

Okay, I got it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a gay witch is actually striving to make rent in early months associated with pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

And the property manager is a lot like, “No, you have to nevertheless provide cash.” And she is like, “But appear, like, all these… you realize, like, you can’t evict myself,” and all these different things and like, “you will want to give myself a break,” and “It really is a pandemic.” Therefore the property owner’s like, “No, i am a landlord. I dislike you.”

And so after that she actually is like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” therefore subsequently she starts tormenting the property manager. Love tale is not together with the landlord, perhaps not an enemies-to-lovers situation because—

Christina:

‘Cause landlords are poor. Certain. (laughs)

Drew:

But in fact she finds out that the woman next-door neighbor is a witch also a lesbian, so they really torment the landlord collectively and fall in love as you go along. It type of provides like a Roald Dahl fuel, like

The Twits

. Or

Splendid Mr. Fox

. Like, there’s not actually, like… there is not lots of conflict as soon as the first dispute takes place. Like, the two of them simply are just like, “We’re both witches. We’re going to torment this individual just who has a right to be tormented.” Immediately after which obtained intercourse.

Christina:

That is in fact truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about, as an alternative, a female who’s, you thought it, a witch just who returns to her home town where this is the sole location that she will do magic—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—because absolutely like a miraculous pond. She’s already been without powers.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she satisfies a, a girl she had a crush in highschool. Uh, absolutely like an entire lengthy, like, puzzle world-building thing with the area as well as the families that run the city. They get together. It’s very nice. Fun guide,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

In all honesty, of this people thus far, this is the any I would personally many wanna study.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is very fun. Uh, there is certainly a sequel to this book, however it is unfortunately about straight people. Very.

Drew:

Crazy.

Christina:

You victory some, you drop some. Okay, here’s the last any.

Honesty and Second Possibilities

,

Whenever Reality Satisfies Fiction

—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—or

The Brutal Reality

.

Drew:

Ooh. I am gonna opt for

When Facts Meets Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, definitely regrettably from my personal mind by yourself. Uh,

The Brutal Truth

, nonetheless…

Drew:

Fortunately that

The Brutal Facts

and

When Truth Matches Fiction

, In My Opinion both are a comparable thing and that is—

Christina:

Yeah, they’d end up being.

Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Morning Program

and of Bradley Jackson and her truth-telling. But we imagine when it was released, for copyright factors they did must change some specifics. So her name is maybe not Bradley Jackson anymore, however it is similarly plotted.

Christina:

That Is a shame because Bradley Jackson is top among the list of best fictional character brands previously place to report, um, despite how—

Drew:

Positively.

Christina:

—ridiculous everything about any of it is actually. But congratulations on that Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Facts

is focused on a mass media mogul which takes over a striving report and comes in love with the crime writer, whom produces—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, they will have a tremendously nice coming together. The media mogul is obviously extremely mean and like two decades older than she’s. This really is incredible material.

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

And I also will, because we care so much for our listeners, demonstrably include backlinks to all the of those genuine books in the program records.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

Therefore the remainder of them, they are going to return into my head in which they belong. In addition, discovering brands of books… Like i will produce plots for a romance books the entire day. Titles is actually, like, actually shockingly frustrating.

Drew:

Yeah, you probably did good.

Christina:

Thank-you. I recently needed that match.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Our very own really special guest is one of my favorite men and women to thirst about stars with. Thus special guest, the trend is to present your self so we can get into celebrity crush talk?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. Its a— And Drew. Hello. We, I am Jordan Crucchiola. If in case you pay attention to some of my personal podcasts, you may possibly have started with the Easy Podcast that we performed with Christina. And as we mentioned once I signed to this chat, the past time we were on a pod with each other was actually once we were choosing Blake Lively.

Christina:

And, when I remember, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis just in a tiny bit Zoom spot.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

There she’s. She is had gotten such hair. What’s occurring? She is talkin’ to all of us for so long.

Jordan:

Opt for Jesus, Blake. Thanks a lot.

Christina:

It actually was wild times. Crazy instances.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Do you want to state a bit more about who you are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, we, I wish to claim that i will be an individual who likes Drew Gregory’s everything I think about to-be definitive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. thank-you.

Jordan:

There was clearly specific one in which, um… since tv show makes myself therefore acutely… Hunter Schafer is actually, uh, an angel from God.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

Additionally the show can make myself exceedingly uncomfortable in how the solitary brain trust founder, executor, manufacturer, manager, author, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.

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